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dopeman
11-26-2008, 05:38 PM
THIS IS MORNING NEWS I WASN'T HOME THIS MORNING SOO NOW IM POSTIN IT UP I WAS @ WORK WHEN I HEARD THIS ... SOME OF U ALREADY PROBABLY KNOW ABOUT THIS FOR PPL WHO DONT HERE YALL GO



Mumbai: In one of the most violent terror attacks on Indian soil, Mumbai came under an unprecedented night attack as terrorists used heavy machine guns, including AK-47s, and grenades to strike at the city's most high-profile targets -- the hyper-busy CST (formerly VT) rail terminus; the landmark Taj Hotel at the Gateway and the luxury Oberoi Trident at Nariman Point; the domestic airport at Santa Cruz; the Cama and GT hospitals near CST; the Metro Adlabs multiplex and Mazgaon Dockyard -- killing at least 80 and sending more than 900 to hospital, according to latest reports.

The attacks have taken a tragic toll on the city's top police brass: The high-profile chief of the anti-terror squad Hemant Karkare was killed; Mumbai's additional commissioner of police (east) Ashok Kamte was gunned down outside the Metro; and celebrated encounter specialist Vijay Salaskar was also killed.

The attacks appeared to be aimed at getting international attention as the terrorists took upto 40 British nationals and other foreigners hostage. The chairman of Hindustan Unilever Harish Manwani and CEO of the company Nitin Paranjpe were among the guests trapped at the Oberoi. All the internal board members of the multinational giant were reported to be holed up in the Oberoi hotel.


An unknown outfit, Deccan Mujahideen, has sent an email to news organizations claiming that it carried out the Mumbai attacks.

The Army and Navy in Mumbai were put on alert. 65 Army commandos and 200 NSG commandos were being rushed to Mumbai, Home Minister Shivraj Patil said.

Some media reports attributed the attack to Lashkar-e-Taiba. There were alsounconfirmed reports that some of the terrorists came in by sea. A boat laden with explosives was recovered later at night off the Gateway of India.

Well after midnight, sources said two of the terrorists were shot and wounded at Girgaum in south Mumbai. The two were driving in a commandeered silver-coloured Skoda car. Earlier, these men had sprayed bullets from a police Bolero, outside the Metro Adlabs multiplex.

The attacks occurred at the busiest places. Besides hotels and hospitals, terrorists struck at railway stations, Crawford Market, Wadi Bunder and on the Western Express Highway near the airport. Several of these places are within a one-km radius of the commissioner of police's office. "This is definitely a terrorist strike. Seven places have bee attacked with automatic weapons and grenades. Terrorists are still holed up in three locations Taj and Oberoi hotels and GT Hospital. Encounters are on at all three places," said Maharashtra DGP A N Roy.

St George's Hospital and G T Hospital were said to have received 75 bodies and more than 250 injured people, additional municipal commissioner R A Rajeev said. Bombay Hospital got two bodies and 30 injured people were admitted there; Cooper Hospital, Vile Parle, got three dismembered bodies.

Three of the deaths occurred inside the Taj and one G T Hospital attendant died in a shootout inside the hospital. There were reports of people cowering under tables and chairs at both the Taj as well as G T Hospital.

Metro Junction resident Manoj Goel said: "My brother, Manish, died in the firing at Colaba's Hamaal Galli."
Cops fired back at the men -- probably from one of the Lashkar groups, dressed in black and with backpacks and SRPF, Crime Branch, ATS and teams of military commandos were summoned to the spot. Train services at CST were suspended and all roads leading to and from south Mumbai were blockaded.

Maharashtra Chief Minister Vilasrao Deshmukh cut short his Kerala visit and was returning to Mumbai. He described the situation in Mumbai as "very serious".

Deshmukh promised "stringent action" against the assailants but the mood across Mumbai was not so optimistic.

sniper
11-26-2008, 10:54 PM
I have an update on this: Death toll mounts in Mumbai terrorist attack

MUMBAI, India - Teams of gunmen stormed luxury hotels, a popular restaurant, hospitals and a crowded train station in coordinated attacks across India's financial capital Wednesday night, killing at least 101 people and taking Westerners hostage, police said.

Media reports said that gunmen also seized the Mumbai headquarters of the ultra-orthodox Jewish outreach group Chabad Lubavitch and that shots had been heard coming from the building.

Representatives of the New York-based group referred questions to their Web site, which said the Israeli consulate had earlier been in touch with the rabbi who lived in the house, "but the line was cut in middle of the conversation. No further contact has since been established."

A group of suspected Muslim militants claimed responsibility for the attacks.

zirak
11-26-2008, 11:26 PM
Everyday thang. It would have got HUGE reactions though if it was in US or Europe. But when it's Asia(including Middle East), Africa or S.America it will only get talked about for 5 seconds and then it's all forgot. An example is "Bloody Sunday" in Northern Ireland. Only like 13 people died. Yet they make movies and songs about it and still talk about it even though it was in like 72.

RIP to the civilians kiled.

Mighty D.R.
11-27-2008, 12:04 AM
Everyday thang. It would have got HUGE reactions though if it was in US or Europe. But when it's Asia(including Middle East), Africa or S.America it will only get talked about for 5 seconds and then it's all forgot. An example is "Bloody Sunday" in Northern Ireland. Only like 13 people died. Yet they make movies and songs about it and still talk about it even though it was in like 72.

RIP to the civilians kiled.


That's a good point. Especially the Bloody Sunday part.


RIP

Ghetto187
11-27-2008, 12:06 AM
WHAT THE HELL ZIRAK WHAT THE HELL? ::)

zirak
11-27-2008, 12:18 AM
WHAT THE HELL ZIRAK WHAT THE HELL? ::)


That is so racist of u accusing me just because I'm from Middle East......it was my cousins!!

5150EazyG
11-27-2008, 12:18 AM
WHAT THE HELL ZIRAK WHAT THE HELL? ::)


That is so racist of u accusing me just because I'm from Middle East......it was my cousins!!
Oh shit, I thought it was one of your eight wives :D

zirak
11-27-2008, 12:20 AM
WHAT THE HELL ZIRAK WHAT THE HELL? ::)


That is so racist of u accusing me just because I'm from Middle East......it was my cousins!!
Oh shit, I thought it was one of your eight wives :D


It was one of them, she's my cousin.

5150EazyG
11-27-2008, 12:21 AM
WHAT THE HELL ZIRAK WHAT THE HELL? ::)


That is so racist of u accusing me just because I'm from Middle East......it was my cousins!!
Oh shit, I thought it was one of your eight wives :D


It was one of them, she's my cousin.


Oh, so your from the southern middle east I guess, right?

zirak
11-27-2008, 12:25 AM
WHAT THE HELL ZIRAK WHAT THE HELL? ::)


That is so racist of u accusing me just because I'm from Middle East......it was my cousins!!
Oh shit, I thought it was one of your eight wives :D


It was one of them, she's my cousin.


Oh, so your from the southern middle east I guess, right?


Nah mufucka. Representing the Northside all day. Southside Killaz All Day.


Dopeman is going to be so pissed when he reads the posts.

Mighty D.R.
11-27-2008, 12:26 AM
;D ;D ;D ;D

5150EazyG
11-27-2008, 12:27 AM
WHAT THE HELL ZIRAK WHAT THE HELL? ::)


That is so racist of u accusing me just because I'm from Middle East......it was my cousins!!
Oh shit, I thought it was one of your eight wives :D


It was one of them, she's my cousin.


Oh, so your from the southern middle east I guess, right?


Nah mufucka. Representing the Northside all day. Southside Killaz All Day.


Dopeman is going to be so pissed when he reads the posts.
I'll just buy a lotto ticket off him, it'll be all cool again :D

Ghetto187
11-27-2008, 12:28 AM
WHAT THE HELL ZIRAK WHAT THE HELL? ::)


That is so racist of u accusing me just because I'm from Middle East......it was my cousins!!
Oh shit, I thought it was one of your eight wives :D


It was one of them, she's my cousin.


Oh, so your from the southern middle east I guess, right?


Nah mufucka. Representing the Northside all day. Southside Killaz All Day.


Dopeman is going to be so pissed when he reads the posts.

LMAO ;D ;D ;D

zirak
11-27-2008, 06:18 AM
On topic again (so that Dopeman doesnt start cry :P)

I was kinda shocked that they wrote alot about this in the newspapers and the news websites. Almost as much as for the bombings in London 2004. But then I read that most of the victims were European.

Anyway, fuck all terrorists..except for my dad, he's a cool terrorist...j/k

187umGeah
11-27-2008, 07:49 AM
This thread had me rofl, besides the first bit.

sniper
11-27-2008, 08:36 AM
I have another update: Indian officials confirm Canadians among hostages in Mumbai

MUMBAI, India - Indian commandos surrounded two luxury hotels Thursday trying to free people held captive by suspected Muslim militants who attacked at least 10 targets in India's financial capital of Mumbai, killing 104 people. Canadians were believed to be among the hostages.


More than 300 were also wounded in the highly co-ordinated attacks Wednesday night by bands of gunmen who invaded two five star hotels, a popular restaurant, a crowded train station, a Jewish centre and at least five other sites, armed with assault rifles, hand grenades and explosives.


Indian officials confirmed that Canadians were among the hostages held by suspected Muslim militants.


State's Deputy Home Secretary Bitin Srimali said foreigners being held captive include Canadians, Americans, British, Italians, Swedes, Yemenis, New Zealanders, Spaniards, Turks, a Singaporean and Israelis.


However, the Department of Foreign Affairs in Ottawa and the High Commission in New Delhi have not yet confirmed that Canadians were among the hostages. There were no reports of Canadians killed in the attacks.


Among the dead were at least one Australian, a Japanese and a British national, said Pradeep Indulkar, a senior government official of Maharashtra state, whose capital is Mumbai. A German and an Italian were also killed, according to the foreign ministries in the two countries.


Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh blamed "external forces."


"The well-planned and well-orchestrated attacks, probably with external linkages, were intended to create a sense of panic, by choosing high profile targets and indiscriminately killing foreigners," he said in address to the nation.


A previously unknown Islamic militant group claimed responsibility for the carnage, the latest in a series of nationwide terror attacks over the past three years that have dented India's image as an industrious nation galloping toward prosperity.


The most high-profile target was the Taj Mahal Palace and Tower hotel, a landmark in Mumbai since 1903, and a favourite watering hole of the city's elite.


The attackers, dressed in black shirts and jeans, stormed into the hotel at about 9:45 p.m. and opened fire indiscriminately.


"I was in the main lobby and there was all of a sudden a lot of firing outside," said Sajjad Karim, part of a delegation of European lawmakers visiting Mumbai before a European Union-India summit.


Suddenly "another gunmen appeared in front of us, carrying machine gun-type weapons. And he just started firing at us ... I just turned and ran in the opposite direction," he told The Associated Press over his mobile phone.


The shooting was followed by a series of explosions that set fire to parts of the century-old edifice on Mumbai's waterfront. Screams were heard and black smoke and flames billowed, continuing to burn until dawn.


The gunmen also seized the Mumbai headquarters of the ultra-orthodox Jewish outreach group Chabad Lubavitch and attacked the Oberoi Hotel, another five-star landmark.


"It seems that the terrorists commandeered a police vehicle which allowed them easy access to the area of the Chabad house," said a spokesman for the Lubavitch movement in New York, Rabbi Zalman Shmotkin.


Around 10:30 a.m., a woman, a child and an Indian cook were seen being led out of the building by police, said one witness.

The child was identified as Moshe Holtzberg, 2, the son of Rabbi Gavriel Noach Holtzberg, the main representative at Chabad house. The child was unharmed, but his clothes were soaked in blood.

Sandra Samuel,44, the cook who pulled the boy out the building, said she saw Rabbi Holzberg, his wife Rivka and two other unidentified guests lying on the floor, apparently "unconscious.

The gunmen appeared to be holed up inside all three buildings on Thursday, nearly 18 hours later, holding foreign and local hostages, as Indian commandos surrounded the buildings.

"We're going to catch them dead or alive," Maharashtra Home Minister R. R. Patil told reporters. "An attack on Mumbai is an attack on the rest of the country."

Gunfire and explosions were heard from the Taj Mahal, the Oberoi and the Chabad facility.

In the afternoon, bodies and hostages slowly emerged from the building. At least three bodies, covered in white cloth, were wheeled out.

About a dozen hostages including foreigners were also evacuated from the hotel and whisked into a waiting ambulance. Several of them carried small pieces of luggage. One older man was carried into the ambulance by police.

The attackers appeared to have been targeting Britons and Americans.

Alex Chamberlain, a British citizen who was dining at the Oberoi, told Sky News television that a gunman ushered 30 to 40 people from the restaurant into a stairway and, speaking in Hindi or Urdu, ordered everyone to put up their hands.

"They were talking about British and Americans specifically. There was an Italian guy, who, you know, they said: 'Where are you from?" and he said he's from Italy and they said 'fine' and they left him alone. And I thought: 'Fine, they're going to shoot me if they ask me anything - and thank God they didn't," he said.

Chamberlain said he managed to slip away as the patrons were forced to walk up stairs, but he thought much of the group was being held hostage.

The United States and Canada were among the countries that condemned the attacks.

In Washington, White House press secretary Dana Perino said the U.S. "condemns this terrorist attack and we will continue to stand with the people of India in this time of tragedy."

In Ottawa, Prime Minister Stephen Harper condemned the attacks calling them "despicable and cowardly."

"These attacks targeted people from India and around the world. They were attacks on values we hold dear, and we share your loss," Harper said in a statement Thursday.

Minister of Foreign Affairs Lawrence Cannon called the attacks "savage."

"Canada strongly condemns the savage terrorist attacks in Mumbai, which have left hundreds of innocent civilians injured or killed," Cannon said in a release late Wednesday.

"These cowardly attacks are truly appalling."

Ottawa also issued a travel warning Thursday advising travellers to avoid non-essential travel to Mumbai until the situation stabilizes. "Visitors in the city should monitor local news reports, immediately return to their accommodation and remain indoors," the advisory said.

Meanwhile, Sweden was preparing to send a special ambulance plane to India to evacuate European Union citizens injured in the terror attacks. The country's Foreign Ministry said a Boeing 737-800 has been prepared following a request from the European Union.

Ministry spokesman Anders Jorle says the plane is ready to take off once the EU gives the green light. Jorle said Thursday the plane is equipped with six intensive care units for severely injured patients. It also has space for 23 people with serious but not life-threatening injuries.

The motive for the onslaught was not immediately clear, but Mumbai has frequently been targeted in terrorist attacks blamed on Islamic extremists, including a series of bombings in July 2006 that killed 187 people.

Later Thursday the Indian navy said its forces were boarding a cargo vessel suspected of ties to the attacks.

Later Thursday the Indian navy said its forces were boarding a cargo vessel suspected of ties to the attacks.

Navy spokesman Capt. Manohar Nambiar said Thursday that the ship, the MV Alpha, had recently come to Mumbai from Karachi, Pakistan.

The navy has "located the ship and now we are in the process of boarding it and searching it," he said. Earlier, Indian media showed pictures of black and yellow rubber dinghies found by the shore, apparently used by the gunmen to reach the area.

India has been wracked by bomb attacks the past three years, which police blame on Muslim militants intent on destabilizing this largely Hindu country. Nearly 700 people have died.

Since May a militant group calling itself the Indian Mujahideen has taken credit for a string of blasts that killed more than 130 people. The most recent was in September, when explosions struck a park and crowded shopping areas in the capital, New Delhi, killing 21 people and wounding about 100.

-With files from The Canadian Press

dopeman
11-27-2008, 08:38 AM
thanks 4 the update luke

sniper
11-27-2008, 08:52 AM
NP

sniper
11-27-2008, 09:35 PM
I have a new update if anyone is still interasted in this: Indian forces storm besieged Jewish center

MUMBAI, India - Indian security forces Friday assaulted a Jewish center in Mumbai where Muslim militants were believed holed up with possible hostages, with black-clad commandos dropping from a helicopter as sharpshooters opened fire on the five-story building.

Commandos also scoured two luxury hotels room-by-room for survivors and militants, more than a day after a series of terrorist attacks across India's financial center left at least 119 people dead.

The well-coordinated strikes by small bands of gunmen left India's financial center shell-shocked, but the sporadic gunfire and explosions at the Taj Mahal and Oberoi hotels dwindled overnight Friday, indicating the siege might be winding down.

The prime minister blamed groups based outside the country for the brazen attacks, while an Indian newspaper reported that three of the militants confessed they are members of a Pakistani-based group.

At the headquarters of the ultra-orthodox Jewish outreach group Chabad Lubavitch, a commando assault began shortly after dawn following a tense night in which six trucks of soldiers had been brought in to surround the building.

Snipers stationed in buildings opposite the center began the attack, with sustained fire on the building as at least nine commandos lowered themselves by rope onto the roof from a circling Indian air force helicopter.

Security forces searched room-by-room at the five-star hotels — top gathering spots for the Mumbai elite. Commandos had spent much of Thursday bringing out hostages, trapped guests and corpses in small groups. Firefighters put out blazes that erupted a day earlier at both hotels.

The carnage started Wednesday night when gunmen — at least some of whom arrived by sea — fanned out across Mumbai to attack several sites popular with tourists and businessmen. Police said 119 people were killed and 315 were wounded.

Several foreigners were among the dead, possibly including two Americans.

Who's to blame?
A previously unknown Islamic militant group claimed responsibility for the carnage, the latest in a series of terror attacks over the past three years in India.


Prime Minister Manmohan Singh blamed militants from neighboring countries — usually meaning Pakistan — raising fears of renewed tension between the nuclear-armed rivals.

"It is evident that the group which carried out these attacks, based outside the country, had come with single-minded determination to create havoc in the commercial capital of the country," he said in a televised address.

Three of the militants taken into custody have confessed they are members of the Pakistan-based Lashkar-e-Taiba group, The Hindu newspaper reported on Friday.

Lashkar-e-Taiba, one of the largest Islamist militant groups in South Asia, denied on Thursday that it had any role.

One of the militants was a resident of Faridkot in Pakistan's Punjab province, the Hindu said, citing unidentified police investigators.

"Based on the interrogation of the suspects, the investigators believe that one or more groups of Lashkar operatives left Karachi in a merchant ship early on Wednesday," the newspaper said.

Attackers open fire indiscriminately
Two Americans, members of a Virginia-based spiritual organization called the Synchronicity Foundation, were missing and feared among the dead, the group said in a statement. It said the two were in the resturant in the Oberoi and eyewitnesses reported seeing them shot.

Members of Synchronicity were in Mumbai for a spiritual program.

Also among the dead were at least one Australian, a Japanese, a Briton, an Italian and a German, according to Indian and foreign officials.

The attacks started Wednesday night when young men armed with automatic rifles and grenades and carrying backpacks full of ammunition commandeered a vehicle and sprayed passersby with bullets, fired indiscriminately in a train station, hospitals and a popular tourist cafe. They also attacked two of the city's most upscale hotels packed with tourists and business executives

Ratan Tata, who runs the company that owns the elegant Taj hotel, said the attackers appeared to have scouted their targets in advance.

"They seem to know their way around the back office, the kitchen. There has been a considerable amount of detailed planning," he told a news conference.

Survivors told harrowing stories of close encounters. Australian actress Brooke Satchwell, who starred in the "Neighbours" television soap opera, was at the Taj hotel for dinner when she heard machine-gun fire. She hid in a hotel bathroom cupboard.

"There was people getting shot in the corridor. There was someone dead outside the bathroom," the shaken actress told Australian television. "The next thing I knew I was running down the stairs and there were a couple of dead bodies across the stairs. It was chaos."

Dipak Dutta told NDTV news after being rescued at the Taj that troops escorting him through the corridors instructed him not to look down at any of the bodies.

"A lot of chef trainees were massacred in the kitchen," he said.

Outside groups?
An Indian media report said a previously unknown group calling itself the Deccan Mujahideen claimed responsibility for the attacks in e-mails to several media outlets. There was no way to verify that claim.

Singh blamed outside militants and sent a warning to their supporters.

"We will take the strongest possible measures to ensure that there is no repetition of such terrorist acts," he said.

Interpol, the world police organization, said it was sending a team to assist in the investigation.

sniper
11-28-2008, 10:20 AM
Update: N.Y. rabbi, wife killed at Mumbai Jewish center
American dad, daughter killed at hotel; battle persists at Taj Mahal hotel


MUMBAI, India - Commandos who stormed the Mumbai headquarters of an ultra-orthodox Jewish group found the bodies of five hostages inside, among them a New York rabbi and his wife, as a fresh battle raged at the luxury Taj Mahal hotel and other Indian forces ended a siege at another five-star hotel.

More than 150 people have been killed since gunmen attacked 10 sites across India's financial capital starting Wednesday night, including 24 foreigners, officials said.

Early Friday night, Indian commandos emerged from a besieged Jewish center with rifles raised in an apparent sign of victory after a daylong siege that saw a team rappel from helicopters and a series of explosions and fire rock the building and blow gaping holes in the wall

Inside the Chabad-Lubavitch office, though, were five dead hostages.

The Chabad-Lubavitch movement confirmed the deaths of Rabbi Gavriel Noach Holtzberg and his wife, Rivka. They ran the movement’s local headquarters. The couple’s toddler was taken out of the center by his nanny.

A delegation from Israel's ZAKA emergency medical services unit entered the building after the raid and reported through an Indian aide that five hostages and two gunmen were dead, a ZAKA spokesman in Israel said. The spokesman had no information on the hostages' identities or whether there were wounded inside.

Jewish law requires the burial of a dead person's entire body, and the mission of the ultra-Orthodox ZAKA volunteers is to rescue the living — and in the case of the dead, carry out the task of gathering up all collectable pieces of flesh and blood.

Numerous local media reports, quoting top military officials, also said five hostages and two gunmen had been killed in the Jewish center.

Battle for Taj Mahal hotel heats up
By Friday evening, at least nine gunmen had been killed, one had been arrested and as many as six were still in the Taj Mahal, said R. Patil, a top official in Maharashtra state, where Mumbai is the capital. He said more than 150 people had been killed and 370 injured.

After hours of intermittent gunfire and explosions at the elegant Taj Mahal hotel Friday, the battle heated up at dusk when Indian forces began launching grenades at the hotel, where at least one militant was believed to be holed up inside a ballroom, officials said.

Commandos had killed the two last gunmen inside the nearby Oberoi earlier in the day.

"The hotel is under our control," J.K. Dutt, director general of India's elite National Security Guard commando unit, told reporters, adding that 24 bodies had been found. Dozens of people — including a man clutching a baby — had been evacuated from Oberoi earlier Friday.

The airborne assault on the center run by the ultra-orthodox Jewish outreach group Chabad Lubavitch was punctuated by gunshots and explosions and exchanges of fire as forces cleared it floor by floor, according to an Associated Press reporter at the scene.

Nearly 12 hours after the battle began, Indian troops left the building to cheers from the crowd. Mumbai Police Chief Hassan Ghaffoor said "the operation was ongoing" but in its "final stage."

Israel's ambassador to India, Mark Sofer, earlier said they believed there were up to nine hostages inside. He denied reports that Israeli commandos were taking part in the operation.

Moshe Holtzberg, a 2-year-old who was smuggled out of the center by an employee, is now with his grandparents. His grandfather told Israel Radio on Friday that he had no news of Moshe's parents.

Security officials said their operations were almost over.

"It's just a matter of a few hours that we'll be able to wrap up things," Lt. Gen. N. Thamburaj told reporters Friday morning

Group freed from the Oberoi hotel
The group rescued from the Oberoi, many holding passports, included at least two Americans, a Briton, two Japanese nationals and several Indians. Some carried luggage with Canadian flags. One man in a chef's uniform was holding a small baby. About 20 airline crew members were freed, including staff from Lufthansa and Air France.

"I'm going home, I'm going to see my wife," said Mark Abell, with a huge smile on his face after emerging from the hotel. Abell, from Britain, had locked himself in his room during the siege.

The well-coordinated strikes by small bands of gunmen starting Wednesday night left the city shell-shocked.

Late Thursday, after about 400 people had been brought out of the Taj hotel, officials said it had been cleared of gunmen. But Friday morning, army commanders said that while three gunmen had been killed, two to three more were still inside with about 15 civilians.

A few hours after that, Thamburaj, the security official, said at least one gunman was still alive inside the hotel and had cut of electricity on the floor where he was hiding. Shortly after that announcement, another round of explosions and gunfire were heard coming from the hotel.

On Friday, India's foreign minister pointed an accusing finger across the border at rival Pakistan.

"According to preliminary information, some elements in Pakistan are responsible for Mumbai terror attacks," Pranab Mukherjee told reporters in the western city of Jodhpur.

"Proof cannot be disclosed at this time," he said, adding that Pakistan had assured New Delhi it would not allow its territory to be used for attacks against India. India has long accused Islamabad of allowing militant Muslim groups, particularly those fighting in the disputed Himalayan region of Kashmir, to train and take shelter in Pakistan. Mukherjee's carefully phrased comments appeared to indicate he was accusing Pakistan-based groups of staging the attack, and not Pakistan itself.

Islamabad has long denied those accusations.

Earlier Friday, Pakistan's Defense Minister Ahmed Mukhtar, in Islamabad, denied involvement by his country: "I will say in very categoric terms that Pakistan is not involved in these gory incidents."

Indian home minister Jaiprakash Jaiswal said a captured gunmen had been identified as a Pakistani and Patil, the Maharashtra state official, said: "It is very clear that the terrorists are from Pakistan. We have enough evidence that they are from Pakistan."

Neither provided further details.

British citizens involved in attacks?
The British government, meanwhile, was investigating whether some of the attackers could be British citizens with links to Pakistan or the disputed Himalayan territory of Kashmir, a British security official told The Associated Press on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of his work.

The gunmen were well-prepared, apparently scouting some targets ahead of time and carrying large bags of almonds to keep up their energy.

"It's obvious they were trained somewhere ... Not everyone can handle the AK series of weapons or throw grenades like that," an unidentified member of India's Marine Commando unit told reporters, his face wrapped in a black mask. He said the men were "very determined and remorseless" and ready for a long siege. One backpack they found had 400 rounds of ammunition inside.

He said the Taj was filled with terrified civilians, making it very difficult for the commandos to fire on the gunmen.

"To try and avoid civilian casualties we had to be so much more careful," he said, adding that hotel was a grim sight. "Bodies were strewn all over the place, and there was blood everywhere."

U.S. investigative team heads to Mumbai
A U.S. investigative team was heading to Mumbai, a State Department official said Thursday evening, speaking on condition of anonymity because the U.S. and Indian governments were still working out final details.

India has been shaken repeatedly by terror attacks blamed on Muslim militants in recent years, but most were bombings striking crowded places: markets, street corners, parks. Mumbai — one of the most populated cities in the world with some 18 million people — was hit by a series of bombings in July 2006 that killed 187 people.

These attacks were more sophisticated — and more brazen.

They began at about 9:20 p.m. with shooters spraying gunfire across the Chhatrapati Shivaji railroad station, one of the world's busiest terminals. For the next two hours, there was an attack roughly every 15 minutes — the Jewish center, a tourist restaurant, one hotel, then another, and two attacks on hospitals. There were 10 targets in all.

Thizz Da Wiz
11-28-2008, 10:21 AM
Its A Funny World We Live In :'(

sniper
11-28-2008, 04:13 PM
update: 3 Americans killed at Mumbai Jewish center

MUMBAI, India - Commandos who stormed the Mumbai headquarters of an ultra-orthodox Jewish group on Friday found the bodies of five hostages inside — a New York rabbi and his wife as well as three others. The rabbi and two other men were American citizens, while his wife and another woman were Israeli.

The office was one of 10 sites attacked by gunmen on Wednesday and Thursday in a spree that killed more than 150 people in India's financial capital, including at least 16 foreigners. Local officials earlier provided a higher number of foreigners but that could not be confirmed.

Early Friday night, Indian commandos emerged from the besieged Jewish center with rifles raised after the daylong siege that saw a team rappel from helicopters and a series of explosions and fire rock the building and blow gaping holes in a wall.

Inside the Chabad-Lubavitch office, though, were five dead hostages.

The Chabad-Lubavitch movement confirmed the deaths of Rabbi Gavriel Noach Holtzberg, a dual U.S.-Israeli citizen, and his wife, Rivka, an Israeli citizen. The couple ran the movement’s local headquarters.

Also reported dead were Bentzion Chroman, a dual U.S.-Israeli citizen, and Leibish Teitlebaum, an American from Brooklyn, N.Y. A fifth victim whose name was not provided was Israeli.

During the siege, Sandra Samuel, a cook at the center, fled with the couple's toddler, having heard his cries outside the room in which she had barricaded herself. She opened the door, grabbed the toddler and ran outside with another center worker. The little boy’s pants were soaked with blood, and Samuel said she saw four people lying on the floor as she fled.

Battle for Taj Mahal hotel
By Friday evening, at least nine gunmen had been killed across Mumbai, one had been arrested and as many as six were still in the Taj Mahal hotel, said R. Patil, a top official in Maharashtra state, where Mumbai is the capital. He said more than 150 people had been killed and 370 injured.

The gunmen apparently came to Mumbai by boat, and Indian forces expanded their investigation to the sea. Authorities stopped a cargo ship off the western coast of Gujarat that had sailed from Saudi Arabia and handed it over to police for investigation.

They also stopped a cargo ship that had come to Mumbai from Karachi, Pakistan, but released it when nothing suspicious was found on board.

After hours of intermittent gunfire and explosions at the elegant Taj Mahal hotel Friday, the battle heated up at dusk when Indian forces began launching grenades at the hotel, where at least one militant was believed to be holed up inside a ballroom.

CNN reported the government had cut off their live transmissions from the scene in Mumbai. Authorities have asked not to show live footage of their battle with the militants because they believe the gunmen were monitoring the news. Most channels have largely obliged.

Commandos had killed the two last gunmen inside the nearby Oberoi earlier in the day.

"The hotel is under our control," J.K. Dutt, director general of India's elite National Security Guard commando unit, told reporters, adding that 24 bodies had been found. Dozens of people — including a man clutching a baby — had been evacuated from Oberoi earlier Friday.

The dead at the Oberoi included a Virginia man, Alan Scherr, and his daughter Naomi, 13.

Group freed from Oberoi hotel
The group rescued from the Oberoi, many holding passports, included at least two Americans, a Briton, two Japanese nationals and several Indians. Some carried luggage with Canadian flags. One man in a chef's uniform was holding a small baby. About 20 airline crew members were freed, including staff from Lufthansa and Air France.

"I'm going home, I'm going to see my wife," said Mark Abell, with a huge smile on his face after emerging from the hotel. Abell, from Britain, had locked himself in his room during the siege.

The well-coordinated strikes by small bands of gunmen starting Wednesday night left the city shell-shocked.

Late Thursday, after about 400 people had been brought out of the Taj hotel, officials said it had been cleared of gunmen. But Friday morning, army commanders said that while three gunmen had been killed, two to three more were still inside with about 15 civilians.

A few hours after that, Thamburaj, the security official, said at least one gunman was still alive inside the hotel and had cut off electricity on the floor where he was hiding. Shortly after that announcement, another round of explosions and gunfire were heard coming from the hotel.

On Friday, India's foreign minister pointed an accusing finger across the border at rival Pakistan. "According to preliminary information, some elements in Pakistan are responsible for Mumbai terror attacks," Pranab Mukherjee told reporters.

"Proof cannot be disclosed at this time," he said, adding that Pakistan had assured New Delhi it would not allow its territory to be used for attacks against India. India has long accused Islamabad of allowing militant Muslim groups, particularly those fighting in the disputed Himalayan region of Kashmir, to train and take shelter in Pakistan. Mukherjee's carefully phrased comments appeared to indicate he was accusing Pakistan-based groups of staging the attack, and not the Pakistan government itself.

Islamabad has long denied those accusations.

Earlier Friday, Pakistan's Defense Minister Ahmed Mukhtar denied involvement by his country, saying that "I will say in very categoric terms that Pakistan is not involved in these gory incidents."

Indian Home Minister Jaiprakash Jaiswal said a captured gunmen had been identified as a Pakistani and Patil, the Maharashtra state official, said: "It is very clear that the terrorists are from Pakistan. We have enough evidence that they are from Pakistan."

Neither provided further details.

British citizens involved in attacks?
The British government, meanwhile, was investigating whether some of the attackers could be British citizens with links to Pakistan or the disputed Himalayan territory of Kashmir, a British security official told The Associated Press on condition of anonymity.

The gunmen were well-prepared, apparently scouting some targets ahead of time and carrying large bags of almonds to keep up their energy.

"It's obvious they were trained somewhere ... Not everyone can handle the AK series of weapons or throw grenades like that," an unidentified member of India's Marine Commando unit told reporters, his face wrapped in a black mask. He said the men were "very determined and remorseless" and ready for a long siege. One backpack they found had 400 rounds of ammunition inside.

He said the Taj was filled with terrified civilians, making it very difficult for the commandos to fire on the gunmen.

"To try and avoid civilian casualties we had to be so much more careful," he said, adding that the hotel was a grim sight. "Bodies were strewn all over the place, and there was blood everywhere."

U.S. team heads to Mumbai
A U.S. investigative team was heading to Mumbai, a State Department official said Thursday.

Pakistan’s government said Friday that it will send its spy chief, Lt. Gen. Ahmed Shujaa Pasha, to India to help probe the attacks.

India has been shaken repeatedly by terror attacks blamed on Muslim militants in recent years, but most were bombings striking crowded places: markets, street corners, parks. Mumbai — one of the most populated cities in the world with some 18 million people — was hit by a series of bombings in July 2006 that killed 187 people.

These attacks were more sophisticated — and more brazen.

They began at about 9:20 p.m. with shooters spraying gunfire across the Chhatrapati Shivaji railroad station, one of the world's busiest terminals. For the next two hours, there was an attack roughly every 15 minutes — the Jewish center, a tourist restaurant, one hotel, then another, and two attacks on hospitals. There were 10 targets in all.

Sederos
11-28-2008, 04:26 PM
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zirak
11-28-2008, 04:29 PM
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sniper
11-28-2008, 04:34 PM
i'm not spaming i'm just updated that's all

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11-28-2008, 04:36 PM
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Sederos
11-28-2008, 04:45 PM
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sniper
11-28-2008, 04:58 PM
Update: MUMBAI, India - Indian forces fired grenades at the landmark Taj Mahal hotel Friday, the last stand of the suspected Muslim militants, just hours after elite commandos stormed a Jewish outreach center and found six hostages dead.

More than 150 people were killed in the violence that began when gunmen attacked 10 sites across India’s financial capital Wednesday night. Fifteen foreigners, including five Americans, were among the dead.

The bodies of New York Rabbi Gavriel Noach Holtzberg and his wife, Rivkah, were found at the center run by the ultra-orthodox Chabad-Lubavitch movement. Their newly orphaned son, Moshe, who turns 2 on Saturday, was scooped up by an employee Thursday as she fled the building.

sniper
11-28-2008, 09:15 PM
Update: Police: Standoff over at Mumbai's Taj hotel

MUMBAI, India - Commandos killed two remaining militants making a last stand at the Taj Mahal hotel Saturday, Police Chief Hasan Ghafoor said, marking the end of one of the most brazen terror attacks in India’s history.

The fight was marked by sporadic gunfire and grenade blasts and culminated in a burst of fire and smoke from the the landmark hotel. It came less than a day after elite troops stormed a Jewish outreach center and found six hostages dead.

"The Taj operation is over. The last two terrorist holed up there have been killed," Ghafoor told The Associated Press.

Thizz Da Wiz
11-28-2008, 09:18 PM
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Mighty D.R.
11-28-2008, 10:53 PM
Damn, been watching coverage of this on the news. Shit is crazy. Terrorists are such dumbasses.

sniper
11-29-2008, 10:12 AM
Updated: Troops search India hotel after rampage ends
Report: Militants aimed to kill 5,000 people in attack to rival Sept. 11

MUMBAI, India - A 60-hour terror rampage that killed 195 people across India's financial capital ended Saturday when commandos killed the last three gunmen inside a luxury hotel while it was engulfed in flames.

Authorities searched for any remaining captives hiding in their rooms and began to shift their focus to who was behind the attacks, which killed 18 foreigners including six Americans.

Orange flames and black smoke engulfed the landmark 565-room Taj Mahal hotel after dawn Saturday as Indian forces ended the siege in a hail of gunfire, just hours after elite commandos stormed a Jewish center and found six hostages dead.


The gunmen had set parts of the hotel ablaze as they played cat-and-mouse with scores of India's best-trained commandos, known as the Black Cats. They left bodies in their wake, some with grenades stuffed into the mouths or concealed underneath.

A dozen suspected terrorists hit 10 sites around Mumbai on Wednesday night, and the last holdout was the Taj hotel. "There were three terrorists, we have killed them," said J.K. Dutt, director general of India's elite National Security Guard commando unit.

Nine of the attackers were killed, a tenth caught alive. He told interrogators they wanted to go down in history for an "Indian 9/11", and were also inspired by the bombing of the Marriott hotel in Islamabad in September, Times Now TV said, quoting an unidentified defense ministry official.

Local news channel NDTV also reported the captured militant told investigators the gang aimed to blow up the Taj hotel and hoped to kill a total of 5,000 people. It is thought that the terrorists underestimated the strength of the building's stone exterior.

'Still scared'
Explosions continued rock the Taj hotel after the battle as soldiers blasted open doors and detonated explosives found on the gunmen as they swept the hotel once more looking for survivors and booby traps left by the militants.

Some hotel guests were still believed to be in their rooms. "They are still scared, so even when we request them to come out and identify ourselves, they are naturally afraid," said Dutt.

Sniffer dogs were taken into the famous hotel and workers wearing surgical masks arrived to remove bodies.

Many guests had been trapped in their rooms while the battle raged around them. They emerged to harrowing scenes.

"The blood, everywhere the blood," an American woman called Patricia told NDTV channel, choking back tears. "And when we came down to the lobby, all the hundreds and hundreds of policemen were standing there looking so fried and so sad."

NDTV also reported that the fourth and sixth floors of the Taj hotel had been gutted by fires. Officials were said to believe that a "large number" of bodies may yet be recovered there.

Outside, anxious relatives stood in groups hoping family members trapped inside would walk out. Many had been keeping a vigil since the attack began.

With the end of one of the most brazen terror attacks in India's history, attention turned from the military operation to questions of who was behind the attack and the heavy toll on human life.

A previously unknown Muslim group with a name suggesting origins inside India claimed responsibility for the attack, but Indian officials said the sole surviving gunman was from Pakistan and pointed a finger of blame at their neighbor and rival.

Islamabad denied involvement and promised to help in the investigation. A team of FBI agents also was on its way to India to lend assistance.

Commando training?
Several newspapers said some of the militants had checked into the Taj hotel days or weeks before the attacks, while the Times of India said they had rented an apartment in the city a few months ago pretending to be students.

An army general said the gunmen appeared to be very familiar with the hotel's layout and were well trained.

"At times we found them matching us in combat and movement," one commando told the Hindustan Times. "They were either army regulars or have done a long stint of commando training."

The bodies of New York Rabbi Gavriel Noach Holtzberg and his wife, Rivkah, were found at the Jewish center. Their son, Moshe, who turned 2 on Saturday, was scooped up by an employee Thursday as she fled the building.

Other Americans among the dead included:

Bentzion Chroman, an Israeli with dual U.S. citizenship who was visiting the center.
Rabbi Leibish Teitlebaum of Brooklyn, N.Y., who was visiting the center.
Alan Scherr, 58, and daughter Naomi, 13, of Virginia, who died in a cafe Wednesday night. They lived at the Synchronicity Foundation sanctuary about 15 miles southwest of Charlottesville, Va., and were among 25 foundation participants in a spiritual program in Mumbai, said Bobbie Garvey, a spokeswoman for the foundation, which promotes a form of meditation.
Germans, Canadians, Israelis and nationals from Britain, Italy, Japan, China, Thailand, Australia and Singapore were also killed. Some 295 people were wounded in the violence.

'Different kind of fear'
By Saturday morning the death toll was at 195, the deadliest attack in India since the 1993 serial bombings in Mumbai killed 257 people. But officials said the toll from the three days of carnage was likely to rise as more bodies were brought out of the hotels.

Even as the battle ended, Indians began burying their dead, many of them security force members killed fighting the gunmen.

In the southern city of Bangalore, black-clad commandos formed an honor guard as the flag-draped coffin of Maj. Gen. Unnikrishnan, who was killed in the fighting at the Taj, passed by. "He gave up his own life to save the others," said Dutt.

Bhushan Gagrani, the Maharashtra state government spokesman, told The Associated Press at least 11 gunmen had been killed and one captured alive after the attack that shook the city and the country.

"There is a limit a city can take. This is a very, very different kind of fear. It will be sometime before things get back to normal," said Ayesha Dar, a 33-year-old homemaker.

Trawler link?
On Saturday the Indian navy said it was investigating whether a trawler found drifting off the coast of Mumbai, with a bound corpse on board, was used in the attack

Navy spokesman Capt. Manohar Nambiar said the trawler, called "Kuber," was found Thursday and brought to Mumbai. Television footage showed a bound body lying face down on the deck.

Media reports said the man was the boat's skipper and had been killed when the trawler was hijacked after it sailed from Karachi, Pakistan. That could not be immediately confirmed.

Indian security officers believe many of the gunmen may have reached the city from a boat using a black and yellow rubber dinghy found near the site of the attacks.

India's foreign minister said the blame appeared to point to Pakistan. "According to preliminary information, some elements in Pakistan are responsible for Mumbai terror attacks," Pranab Mukherjee told reporters.

Pakistani Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani insisted on Friday that his country was not involved. On Saturday Pakistan withdrew a pledge to send its spy chief to India to help probe the attacks.

Zahid Bashir, a spokesman for Gilani, told The Associated Press on Saturday a lower-ranking intelligence official would travel instead

President-elect Barack Obama said he was closely monitoring the situation. "These terrorists who targeted innocent civilians will not defeat India's great democracy, nor shake the will of a global coalition to defeat them," he said in a statement.

The attackers were well-prepared, apparently scouting some targets ahead of time and carrying large bags of almonds to keep up their energy during a long siege. One backpack found contained 400 rounds of ammunition.

India has been shaken repeatedly by terror attacks blamed on Muslim militants in recent years, but this was more sophisticated — and more brazen.

dopeman
11-29-2008, 11:33 AM
US President-elect Barack Obama on Friday said that the United States must stand with India against terrorism and promised the attacks would not "shake the will of a global coalition" to defeat the threat.

Obama was monitoring the situation in Mumbai, where more than 150 people were killed in violence that began Wednesday night when gunmen attacked 10 sites across India's financial capital.

He received several intelligence briefings and spoke by telephone with US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, State Department officials said.

"These terrorists who targeted innocent civilians will not defeat India's great democracy, nor shake the will of a global coalition to defeat them," Obama said in a statement. "The United States must stand with India and all nations and people who are committed to destroying terrorist networks, and defeating their hate-filled ideology."





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Jorge_Eazy
11-29-2008, 12:09 PM
I've read all about this in the paper. Damn, it sounded like a real hell over there.

sniper
11-29-2008, 04:39 PM
Update: Mumbai recovers, grieves after deadly siege
Residents remain fearful after tragedy: 'Is anyone safe?'


MUMBAI, India - This seaside city of 18 million has bounced back from wrenching tragedy before, but after the most brazen terrorist attack in India's history, the people of Mumbai are worried.

In crowded trains, corner stores, office buildings and neighborhood parks, residents ask each other the same questions. "Is anyone safe?" and "Could it happen again?"

The 60-hour siege ended Saturday, claiming at least 195 lives in attacks at 10 landmarks across Mumbai. The three-day ordeal spread fear and grief across a city that attracts newcomers by the hundreds every day.